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Postby daytripper » Wed May 07, 2008 11:19 pm

Hello everyone!

I have to ask you all a small favour that I really hope you wont mind taking part in.
We all visit this forum because we all have a common interest in adventure travel, and many of us share a passion for sustainable tourism. As travellers, we should understand the strain we often put on our environment and whenever possible should find a way to give back. If you wouldn't mind, I would be so greatful if you could all take 2 minutes out of your daily web surfing to visit

www.thebigwild.org

and click on ADD YOUR VOICE [top right tab].
Canada has the largest wild forest in the entire world, but only 10% of it is protected. Without protection, millions of acres are cut down annually to accommodate urban sprawl. By adding your voice you are signing a petition that has potential to raise awareness about the state of our environment.
I know that the population of users on this forum is extremely diverse, but in a situation like this we should all be willing to help out the environment, no matter where it is situated. I encourage you all to watch the video on the website to learn more about what you would be supporting. It's a great cause that will benefit more than just Canada and we can all take pride in knowing that a 2 minute action has potential to raise awareness within a country.

Thank you so much to everyone who takes the time to add their name to the list. For those who don't, I completely understand if you can't be bothered. I just thought it would be a great opportunity for us all to make a difference! :D
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Postby sinecure » Thu May 08, 2008 12:12 am

Thanks for taking the time to post that, I check in on it and was surprised that it was backed by MEC.
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Postby daytripper » Thu May 08, 2008 12:26 am

that's oddly enough how I came across it. I was checking out the MEC site because I work for a competitor store and I wanted to see what their mission statement is, the brands they promote, prices, etc. When I came across this I realised they have a very active involvement in environmental preservation. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised. :D
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Postby jimshu » Thu May 08, 2008 1:29 am

I am all for protecting our world's forests and jungles.
If you check out my last post in this thread-
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=385&p=24204#p24204
.it may help evidence the importance of protecting our environment,and lessening the impact of climate change,simply by not cutting our trees down.

Daytripper, and others, do you realise that under carbon sequestration/offset plans drawn up by IPCC/Stern /Kyoto protocols, that pristine jungles, and virgin forests are being cut down because those companies are being paid out of our offset dollars to plant plantations of eucalyptus (for Instance).
Our leaders in their blind panic to stop climate change, have not allowed for your virgin forests or natural jungle to be protected under their plans.
Go figure that one.Absolute dipstiks.
Brasils' deforestation of the jungle is to double this year-because of more land being required for planting trees(which we help fund with our flight carbon emission offset dollars,) and the rush for biofuels.....while indigenous tribes get chucked off their land.
I'll elaborate -
Under Kyoto protocols,'carbon sinks'e.g.forests, oceans etc, can only qualify for carbon emission credits if they are managed by those with official status.So forests inhabited for millenia by native people , cannot qualify as managed and cannot get 'credits'.
But along comes a company, wanting to plant a monoculture plantation and they are basically rewarded for ripping down our jungles, to plant eucalyptus.....which will be cut down for pulp in 5-8 years anyway.
http://www.carbontradewatch.org/pubs/cns.pdf

Anyway, there may be hope that your city leaders may just learn from these guys-
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 5531.story
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Postby jimshu » Fri May 09, 2008 5:11 am

And I feel all concerned people should explore this site .Perhaps we may then understand how flawed our thinking on carbon trade and offsets is-
http://www.carbontradewatch.org/news/07 ... esert.html
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Postby jimshu » Fri May 09, 2008 5:26 am

So for all those like Daytripper, concerned with the future threat to unprotected forests in Canada--...
Indonesia lost 24%of it's forest cover between 1990 and 2005.24% in 15 years.!
And Asian forests are being cleared at an expanding rate because of sugar palm plantations.And agrofuels.
Our rush to embrace agrofuels to help stop global warming?????
http://www.carbontradewatch.org/pubs/Agrofuels.pdf
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Postby madelle » Tue May 20, 2008 5:24 pm

I have heard that the tropical rainforests are being cleared because of hamburgers. They need an ever increasing amount of grazing land for cattle to keep up with the demand for hamburgers and also there are high profits to be made. Anyone ever hear of this? Is this accurate or just an urban myth?
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Postby Reditor » Tue May 20, 2008 5:45 pm

Madelle...I have heard about the Hamburger connection to deforestation, along with many other issues.

A great article was in the January 2007 edition of National Geographic magazine.

The article was focused on the Amazon, and how it is being converted from forests to farms.

It mentions making room for cattle and crops..in particular soy. So as much as cattle (hamburgers) might be cutting down forests, so are the 'healthy' soy products.

Here is a link to a brief excerpt:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0701/feature1/
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Postby daytripper » Tue May 20, 2008 10:44 pm

i'm in a tourism and travel programme at college and my prof was telling us about how many people own land around the shores of the Amazon River but don't ever build on it or use it. Because so much land is owned but nothing is being done with it, the gov't demands that the land be used for cattle ranching. there was huge controversy surrounding this issue because for a long time McDonalds was getting their beef from the Amazon.
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Postby jimshu » Wed May 21, 2008 1:08 am

Hi Daytripper, these days deforestation of the Amazon, is not so much about creating more grazing land to raise beef cattle,but under the twin pressures of soy production and biofuel production.Also for eucalyptus plantations for pulp for paper/tissues production.
Ever wondered where some of your carbon emmission offset dollars go to ,when you buy them for your next trip by plane?
Well, they often fund monoculture, eucalyptus plantations.Often planted on land that has just been stripped of pristine jungle, destroying wildlife habitats,displacing indigenous people, and adding by the way to carbon emmissions.
Why?Because offset dollars are paying for tree planting schemes!But strangely, there is no protection for existing jungles and forests, unless as explained in my earlier post.
Check out this link-
http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?&a ... 9&menu=11c
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Postby daytripper » Wed May 21, 2008 1:10 am

that's right, you mentioned that about growing other crops in other forested areas. thank you for posting that and informing us. i had no idea.
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Postby jimshu » Wed May 21, 2008 1:28 am

Good to see you interested in the whole problem of deforestation. The link I gave above is a photo essay graphically showing what is happenning.
Here is another link to a very good report on tree planting schemes.
http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?&a ... 1&menu=11c

All is not well with many of these schemes.
The thing I asked myself a while ago, was that as there is so much pressure for tree planting schemes to offset carbon emissions, where is all the extra land going to come from?Especially as more land is wanted for Soy, biofuels and sugar palm oil.So to me as a layman, it seems we are headed for trouble somewhere, as somehow we also have to feed everyone.There just isn't more arable land available,without ripping down jungles.And where does all the extra water come from to irrigate the plantings.
In some sub saharan countries there are massive tree planting schemes...buty no water.So most trees die!
So I was not surprised to see the recent reports about looming food shortages and price increases.
Somehow I get an uneasy feeling we are being railroaded into these schemes because they present companies with a huge opportunity for rip offs.
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